{"collection":"chr","html_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/browse/chr/ecf/001/0010751.htm","path":"chr/ecf/001/0010751.htm","source_url":"https://sacred-texts.com/chr/ecf/001/0010751.htm","text":"1. If, again, they maintain that the twelve apostles were a type only of that group of twelve \u00c6ons which Anthropos in conjunction with Ecclesia produced, then let them produce ten other apostles as a type of those ten remaining \u00c6ons, who, as they declare, were produced by Logos and Zoe. For it is unreasonable to suppose that the junior, and for that reason inferior \u00c6ons, were set forth by the Saviour through the election of the apostles, while their seniors, and on this account their superiors, were not thus foreshown; since the Saviour (if, that is to say, He chose the apostles with this view, that by means of them He might show forth the \u00c6ons who are in the Pleroma) might have chosen other ten apostles also, and likewise other eight before these, that thus He might set forth the original and primary Ogdoad. He could not, 3109 in regard to the second [Duo] Decad, show forth [any emblem of it] through the number of the apostles being [already] constituted a type. For [He made choice of no such other number of disciples; but] after the twelve apostles, our Lord is found to have sent seventy others before Him. 3110 Now seventy cannot possibly be the type either of an Ogdoad, a Decad, or a Triacontad. What is the reason, then, that the inferior \u00c6ons are, as I have said, represented by means of the apostles; but the superior, from whom, too, the former derived their being, are not prefigured at all? But if 3111 the twelve apostles were chosen with this object, that the number of the twelve \u00c6ons might be indicated by means of them, then the seventy also ought to have been chosen to be the type of seventy \u00c6ons; and in that case, they must affirm that the \u00c6ons are no longer thirty, but eighty-two in number. For He who made choice of the apostles, that they might be a type of those \u00c6ons existing in the Pleroma, would never have constituted them types of some and not of others; but by means of the apostles He would have tried to preserve an image and to exhibit a type of those \u00c6ons that exist in the Pleroma.\n2. Moreover we must not keep silence respecting Paul, but demand from them after the type of what \u00c6on that apostle has been handed down to us, unless perchance [they affirm that he is a representative] of the Saviour compounded of them [all], who derived his being from the collected gifts of the whole, and whom they term All Things, as having been formed out of them all. Respecting this being the poet Hesiod has strikingly expressed himself, styling him Pandora \u2014that is, \u201cThe gift of all\u201d\u2014for this reason, that the best gift in the possession of all was centred in him. In describing these gifts the following account is given: Hermes (so 3112 he is called in the Greek language), \u0391\u1f31\u03bc\u03c5\u03bb\u03af\u03bf\u03c5\u03c2 3113 \u03c4\u03b5 \u03bb\u03cc\u03b3\u03bf\u03c5\u03c2 \u03ba\u03b1\u1f76 \u1f10\u03c0\u03af\u03ba\u03bb\u03bf\u03c0\u03bf\u03bd \u1f26\u03b8\u03bf\u03c2 \u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u03bf\u1f7a\u03c2 \u039a\u03ac\u03c4\u03b8\u03b5\u03c4\u03bf (or to express this in the English 3114 language), \u201cimplanted words of fraud and deceit in their minds, and thievish habits,\u201d for the purpose of leading foolish men astray, that such should believe their falsehoods. For their Mother\u2014that is, Leto 3115 \u2014secretly stirred them up (whence also she is called Leto, 3116 according to the meaning of the Greek word, because she secretly stirred up men), without the knowledge of the Demiurge, to give forth profound and unspeakable mysteries to itching ears. 3117 And not only did their Mother bring it about that this mystery should be declared by Hesiod; but very skilfully also by means of the lyric poet Pindar, when he describes to the Demiurge 3118 the p. 390 case of Pelops, whose flesh was cut in pieces by the Father, and then collected and brought together, and compacted anew by all the gods, 3119 did she in this way indicate Pandora and these men having their consciences seared 3120 by her, declaring, as they maintain, the very same things, are [proved] of the same family and spirit as the others.\nThis passage is hopelessly corrupt. The editors have twisted it in every direction, but with no satisfactory result. Our version is quite as far from being certainly trustworthy as any other that has been proposed, but it seems something like the meaning of the words as they stand. Both the text and punctuation of the Latin are in utter confusion.\n389:3110 389:3111\n\u201cSi\u201d is wanting in the mss. and early editions, and Harvey pleads for its exclusion, but the sense becomes clearer through inserting it.\n389:3112\nThis clause is, of course, an interpolation by the Latin translator.\n389:3113\nThe words are loosely quoted memoriter, as is the custom with Iren\u00e6us. See Hesiod, Works and Days, i. 77, etc.\n389:3114\nLatin, of course, in the text.\n389:3115\nThere is here a play upon the words \u039b\u03b7\u03c4\u03ce and \u03bb\u03b7\u03b8\u03b5\u1fd6\u03bd, the former being supposed to be derived from the latter, so as to denote secrecy.\n389:3116\nThis clause is probably an interpolation by the translator.\n389:3117 389:3118\n\u201cC\u0153let Demiurgo,\u201d such is the reading in all the mss. and editions. Harvey, however, proposes to read \u201ccelet Demiurgum;\u201d but the change which he suggests, besides being without authority, does not clear away the obscurity which hangs upon the sentence.\n390:3119\nComp. Pindar, Olymp., i. 38, etc.\n390:3120\n\u201cCompuncti\u201d supposed to correspond to \u03ba\u03b5\u03ba\u03b1\u03c5\u03c4\u03b7\u03c1\u03b9\u03b1\u03c3\u03bc\u03ad\u03bd\u03bf\u03b9: see 1 Tim. iv. 2. The whole passage is difficult and obscure.","title":"Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol I: IREN\u00c6US: Chapter XXI.\u2014The twelve apostles...","type":"page"}