{"collection":"chr","html_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/browse/chr/ecf/003/0030670.htm","path":"chr/ecf/003/0030670.htm","source_url":"https://sacred-texts.com/chr/ecf/003/0030670.htm","text":"Chapter XXIII.\u2014More Passages from the Same Gospel in Proof of the Same Portion of the Catholic Faith. Praxeas\u2019 Taunt of Worshipping Two Gods Repudiated.\nAgain, when Martha in a later passage acknowledged Him to be the Son of God, 8070 she no more made a mistake than Peter 8071 and Nathan\u00e6l 8072 had; and yet, even if she had made a mistake, she would at once have learnt the truth: for, behold, when about to raise her brother from the dead, the Lord looked up to heaven, and, addressing the Father, said\u2014as the Son, of course: \u201cFather, I thank Thee that Thou always hearest me; it is because of these crowds that are standing by that I have spoken to Thee, that they may believe that Thou hast sent me.\u201d 8073 But in the trouble of His soul, (on a later occasion,) He said: \u201cWhat shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause is it that I am come to this hour; only, O Father, do Thou glorify Thy name\u201d 8074 \u2014in which He p. 619 spake as the Son. (At another time) He said: \u201cI am come in my Father\u2019s name.\u201d 8075 Accordingly, the Son\u2019s voice was indeed alone sufficient, (when addressed) to the Father. But, behold, with an abundance (of evidence) 8076 the Father from heaven replies, for the purpose of testifying to the Son: \u201cThis is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye Him.\u201d 8077 So, again, in that asseveration, \u201cI have both glorified, and will glorify again,\u201d 8078 how many Persons do you discover, obstinate Praxeas? Are there not as many as there are voices? You have the Son on earth, you have the Father in heaven. Now this is not a separation; it is nothing but the divine dispensation. We know, however, that God is in the bottomless depths, and exists everywhere; but then it is by power and authority. We are also sure that the Son, being indivisible from Him, is everywhere with Him. Nevertheless, in the Economy or Dispensation itself, the Father willed that the Son should be regarded 8079 as on earth, and Himself in heaven; whither the Son also Himself looked up, and prayed, and made supplication of the Father; whither also He taught us to raise ourselves, and pray, \u201cOur Father which art in heaven,\u201d etc., 8080 \u2014although, indeed, He is everywhere present. This heaven the Father willed to be His own throne; while He made the Son to be \u201ca little lower than the angels,\u201d 8081 by sending Him down to the earth, but meaning at the same time to \u201ccrown Him with glory and honour,\u201d 8082 even by taking Him back to heaven. This He now made good to Him when He said: \u201cI have both glorified Thee, and will glorify Thee again.\u201d The Son offers His request from earth, the Father gives His promise from heaven. Why, then, do you make liars of both the Father and the Son? If either the Father spake from heaven to the Son when He Himself was the Son on earth, or the Son prayed to the Father when He was Himself the Son in heaven, how happens it that the Son made a request of His own very self, by asking it of the Father, since the Son was the Father? Or, on the other hand, how is it that the Father made a promise to Himself, by making it to the Son, since the Father was the Son? Were we even to maintain that they are two separate gods, as you are so fond of throwing out against us, it would be a more tolerable assertion than the maintenance of so versatile and changeful a God as yours! Therefore it was that in the passage before us the Lord declared to the people present: \u201cNot on my own account has this voice addressed me, but for your sakes,\u201d 8083 that these likewise may believe both in the Father and in the Son, severally, in their own names and persons and positions. \u201cThen again, Jesus exclaims, and says, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on Him that sent me;\u201d 8084 because it is through the Son that men believe in the Father, while the Father also is the authority whence springs belief in the Son. \u201cAnd he that seeth me, seeth Him that sent me.\u201d 8085 How so? Even because, (as He afterwards declares,) \u201cI have not spoken from myself, but the Father which sent me: He hath given me a commandment what I should say, and what I should speak.\u201d 8086 For \u201cthe Lord God hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know when I ought to speak\u201d 8087 the word which I actually speak. \u201cEven as the Father hath said unto me, so do I speak.\u201d 8088 Now, in what way these things were said to Him, the evangelist and beloved disciple John knew better than Praxeas; and therefore he adds concerning his own meaning: \u201cNow before the feast of the passover, Jesus knew that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He had come from God, and was going to God.\u201d 8089 Praxeas, however, would have it that it was the Father who proceeded forth from Himself, and had returned to Himself; so that what the devil put into the heart of Judas was the betrayal, not of the Son, but of the Father Himself. But for the matter of that, things have not turned out well either for the devil or the heretic; because, even in the Son\u2019s case, the treason which the devil wrought against Him contributed nothing to his advantage. It was, then, the Son of God, who was in the Son of man, that was betrayed, as the Scripture says afterwards: \u201cNow is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in Him.\u201d 8090 Who is here meant by \u201cGod?\u201d Certainly not the Father, but the Word of the Father, who was in the Son of man\u2014that is in the flesh, in which Jesus had been already glorified by the divine power and word. \u201cAnd God,\u201d says He, \u201cshall also glorify Him in Himself;\u201d 8091 that is to say, the Father shall glorify the Son, because He has Him within Himself; and even though prostrated to the p. 620 earth, and put to death, He would soon glorify Him by His resurrection, and making Him conqueror over death.\nJohn 11:41, 42.\n618:8074\nJohn 12:27, 28.\n619:8075 619:8076 619:8077 619:8078 619:8079 619:8080 619:8081 619:8082 619:8083 619:8084 619:8085 619:8086 619:8087 619:8088 619:8089 619:8090 619:8091","title":"Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol III: Tertullian: Part II: More P...","type":"page"}