{"collection":"chr","html_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/browse/chr/ecf/105/1050411.htm","path":"chr/ecf/105/1050411.htm","source_url":"https://sacred-texts.com/chr/ecf/105/1050411.htm","text":"Chapter 26.\u2014The Accusations in the Seventh Item, Which Pelagius Confessed.\nLet us now see what were the two points out of all that were alleged which Pelagius was unwilling to anathematize, and admitted to be his own opinions, but to remove their offensive aspect explained in what sense he held them. \u201cThat a man,\u201d says he, \u201cis able to be without sin has been asserted already.\u201d Asserted no doubt, and we remember the assertion quite well; but still it was mitigated, and approved by the judges, in that God\u2019s grace was added, concerning which nothing was said in the original draft of his doctrine. Touching the second, however, of these points, we ought to pay careful attention to what he said in answer to the charge against him. \u201cConcerning the fact, indeed,\u201d says he, \u201cthat before the Lord\u2019s coming there were persons without sin, we now again assert that previous to Christ\u2019s advent some men lived holy and righteous lives, according to the teaching of the sacred Scriptures.\u201d He did not dare to say: \u201cWe now again assert that previous to Christ\u2019s advent there were persons without sin,\u201d although this had been laid to his charge after the very words of C\u0153lestius. For he perceived how dangerous such a statement was, and into what trouble it would bring him. So he reduced the sentence to these harmless dimensions: \u201cWe again assert that before the coming of Christ there were persons who led holy and righteous lives.\u201d Of course there were: who would deny it? But to say this is a very different thing from saying that they lived \u201cwithout sin.\u201d Because, indeed, those ancient worthies lived holy and righteous lives, they could for that very reason better confess: \u201cIf we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in p. 195 us.\u201d 1681 In the present day, also, many men live holy and righteous lives; but yet it is no untruth they utter when in their prayer they say: \u201cForgive us our debts, even as we forgive our debtors.\u201d 1682 This avowal was accordingly acceptable to the judges, in the sense in which Pelagius solemnly declared his belief; but certainly not in the sense which C\u0153lestius, according to the original charge against him, was said to hold. We must now treat in detail of the topics which still remain, to the best of our ability.","title":"Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Vol. V: A Work on the Pro...","type":"page"}