{"collection":"Anguttara Nikaya","full_text_available":true,"graph_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/v2/api/page/suttacentral_an4.175/graph","html_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/v2/page/suttacentral_an4.175","id":"suttacentral_an4.175","license":"CC0","rights_basis":"suttacentral_bilara_data_cc0","source":"suttacentral","source_url":"https://suttacentral.net/an4.175/en/sujato","summary":null,"tags":["Anguttara Nikaya","Early Buddhist Texts"],"text":"Then Venerable Upav\u0101\u1e47a went up to Venerable S\u0101riputta, and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, Upav\u0101\u1e47a sat down to one side, and said to S\u0101riputta: \u201cReverend S\u0101riputta, do you become a terminator because of knowledge?\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s not it, reverend.\u201d \u201cDo you become a terminator because of conduct?\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s not it, reverend.\u201d \u201cDo you become a terminator because of both knowledge and conduct?\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s not it, reverend.\u201d \u201cDo you become a terminator for some reason other than knowledge and conduct?\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s not it, reverend.\u201d \u201cReverend S\u0101riputta, when asked whether you become a terminator because of knowledge or conduct or knowledge and conduct, or for some other reason, you say \u2018that\u2019s not it\u2019. How then do you become a terminator?\u201d \u201cReverend, if you became a terminator because of knowledge, then even someone who still grasps fuel could be a terminator. If you became a terminator because of conduct, then even someone who still grasps fuel could be a terminator. If you became a terminator because of both knowledge and conduct, then even someone who still grasps fuel could be a terminator. If you became a terminator for some reason other than knowledge and conduct, then even an ordinary person could be a terminator. For an ordinary person lacks knowledge and conduct. Reverend, someone lacking good conduct does not know and see things as they are. Someone accomplished in good conduct knows and sees things as they are. Knowing and seeing things as they are, one is a terminator.\u201d","title":"With Upav\u0101\u1e47a","tradition":"Anguttara Nikaya","translated_text":null,"word_count":252}