{"collection":"Digha Nikaya","full_text_available":true,"graph_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/v2/api/page/suttacentral_dn7/graph","html_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/v2/page/suttacentral_dn7","id":"suttacentral_dn7","license":"CC0","rights_basis":"suttacentral_bilara_data_cc0","source":"suttacentral","source_url":"https://suttacentral.net/dn7/en/sujato","summary":null,"tags":["Digha Nikaya","Early Buddhist Texts"],"text":"So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Kosamb\u012b in Ghosita\u2019s monastery. Now at that time two renunciates\u2014 the wanderer Mu\u1e47\u1e0diya and J\u0101liya, the pupil of the wood-bowl ascetic\u2014came to the Buddha and exchanged greetings with him. When the greetings and polite conversation were over, they stood to one side and said to the Buddha, \u201cReverend Gotama, are the soul and the body one and the same, or is the soul one thing, the body another?\u201d \u201cWell then, reverends, listen and apply your mind well, I will speak.\u201d \u201cYes, reverend,\u201d they replied. The Buddha said this: \u201cTake the case when a Realized One arises in the world, perfected, a fully awakened Buddha \u2026 That\u2019s how a mendicant is accomplished in ethics. \u2026 They enter and remain in the first absorption \u2026 When a mendicant knows and sees like this, would it be appropriate to say of them: \u2018The soul and the body are one and the same\u2019 or \u2018The soul is one thing, the body another\u2019?\u201d \u201cIt would, reverend.\u201d \u201cBut reverends, I know and see like this. Nevertheless, I do not say: \u2018The soul and the body are one and the same\u2019 or \u2018The soul is one thing, the body another\u2019. \u2026 They enter and remain in the second absorption \u2026 third absorption \u2026 fourth absorption. When a mendicant knows and sees like this, would it be appropriate to say of them: \u2018The soul and the body are one and the same\u2019 or \u2018The soul is one thing, the body another\u2019?\u201d \u201cIt would, reverend.\u201d \u201cBut reverends, I know and see like this. Nevertheless, I do not say: \u2018The soul and the body are one and the same\u2019 or \u2018The soul is one thing, the body another\u2019. \u2026 They project and extend the mind toward knowledge and vision \u2026 When a mendicant knows and sees like this, would it be appropriate to say of them: \u2018The soul and the body are one and the same\u2019 or \u2018The soul is one thing, the body another\u2019?\u201d \u201cIt would, reverend.\u201d \u201cBut reverends, I know and see like this. Nevertheless, I do not say: \u2018The soul and the body are one and the same\u2019 or \u2018The soul is one thing, the body another\u2019. \u2026 They understand: \u2018\u2026 there is nothing further for this place.\u2019 When a mendicant knows and sees like this, would it be appropriate to say of them: \u2018The soul and the body are one and the same\u2019 or \u2018The soul is one thing, the body another\u2019?\u201d \u201cIt would not, reverend.\u201d \u201cBut reverends, I know and see like this. Nevertheless, I do not say: \u2018The soul and the body are one and the same\u2019 or \u2018The soul is one thing, the body another\u2019.\u201d That is what the Buddha said. Satisfied, the two renunciates approved what the Buddha said.","title":"With J\u0101liya","tradition":"Digha Nikaya","translated_text":null,"word_count":469}