{"collection":"Samyutta Nikaya","full_text_available":true,"graph_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/v2/api/page/suttacentral_sn22.60/graph","html_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/v2/page/suttacentral_sn22.60","id":"suttacentral_sn22.60","license":"CC0","rights_basis":"suttacentral_bilara_data_cc0","source":"suttacentral","source_url":"https://suttacentral.net/sn22.60/en/sujato","summary":null,"tags":["Early Buddhist Texts","Samyutta Nikaya"],"text":"So I have heard. At one time the Buddha was staying near Ves\u0101l\u012b, at the Great Wood, in the hall with the peaked roof. Then Mah\u0101li the Licchavi went up to the Buddha \u2026 and said to him: \u201cSir, P\u016bra\u1e47a Kassapa says this: \u2018There is no cause or reason for the corruption of sentient beings. Sentient beings are corrupted without cause or reason. There\u2019s no cause or reason for the purification of sentient beings. Sentient beings are purified without cause or reason.\u2019 What does the Buddha say about this?\u201d \u201cMah\u0101li, there is a cause and reason for the corruption of sentient beings. Sentient beings are corrupted with cause and reason. There is a cause and reason for the purification of sentient beings. Sentient beings are purified with cause and reason.\u201d \u201cBut sir, what is the cause and reason for the corruption of sentient beings? How are sentient beings corrupted with cause and reason?\u201d \u201cMah\u0101li, if form were absolutely painful\u2014soaked and steeped in pain and not steeped in pleasure\u2014sentient beings wouldn\u2019t be aroused by it. But because form is pleasurable\u2014soaked and steeped in pleasure and not steeped in pain\u2014sentient beings are aroused by it. Since they are aroused by it, they\u2019re caught up in it, and so they become corrupted. This is a cause and reason for the corruption of sentient beings. This is how sentient beings are corrupted with cause and reason. If feeling \u2026 perception \u2026 choices \u2026 consciousness were absolutely painful\u2014soaked and steeped in pain and not steeped in pleasure\u2014sentient beings wouldn\u2019t be aroused by it. But because consciousness is pleasurable\u2014soaked and steeped in pleasure and not steeped in pain\u2014sentient beings are aroused by it. Since they are aroused by it, they\u2019re caught up in it, and so they become corrupted. This is a cause and reason for the corruption of sentient beings. This is how sentient beings are corrupted with cause and reason.\u201d \u201cBut sir, what is the cause and reason for the purification of sentient beings? How are sentient beings purified with cause and reason?\u201d \u201cMah\u0101li, if form was absolutely pleasurable\u2014soaked and steeped in pleasure and not steeped in pain\u2014sentient beings wouldn\u2019t grow disillusioned with it. But because form is painful\u2014soaked and steeped in pain and not steeped in pleasure\u2014sentient beings do grow disillusioned with it. Being disillusioned, desire fades away. When desire fades away they are purified. This is a cause and reason for the purification of sentient beings. This is how sentient beings are purified with cause and reason. If feeling \u2026 perception \u2026 choices \u2026 consciousness was absolutely pleasurable\u2014soaked and steeped in pleasure and not steeped in pain\u2014sentient beings wouldn\u2019t grow disillusioned with it. But because consciousness is painful\u2014soaked and steeped in pain and not steeped in pleasure\u2014sentient beings do grow disillusioned with it. Being disillusioned, desire fades away. When desire fades away they are purified. This is a cause and reason for the purification of sentient beings. This is how sentient beings are purified with cause and reason.\u201d","title":"With Mah\u0101li","tradition":"Samyutta Nikaya","translated_text":null,"word_count":496}