{"collection":"Samyutta Nikaya","full_text_available":true,"graph_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/v2/api/page/suttacentral_sn24.5/graph","html_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/v2/page/suttacentral_sn24.5","id":"suttacentral_sn24.5","license":"CC0","rights_basis":"suttacentral_bilara_data_cc0","source":"suttacentral","source_url":"https://suttacentral.net/sn24.5/en/sujato","summary":null,"tags":["Early Buddhist Texts","Samyutta Nikaya"],"text":"At S\u0101vatth\u012b. \u201cMendicants, when what exists, because of grasping what and insisting on what, does the view arise: \u2018There\u2019s no meaning in giving, sacrifice, or offerings. There\u2019s no fruit or result of good and bad deeds. There\u2019s no afterlife. There\u2019s no such thing as mother and father, or beings that are reborn spontaneously. And there\u2019s no ascetic or brahmin who is rightly comported and rightly practiced, and who describes the afterlife after realizing it with their own insight. This person is made up of the four principal states. When they die, the earth in their body progresses and proceeds to the substance of earth. The water in their body progresses and proceeds to the substance of water. The fire in their body progresses and proceeds to the substance of fire. The air in their body progresses and proceeds to the substance of air. The faculties are transferred to space. Four men with a bier carry away the corpse. Their footprints show the way to the cremation ground. The bones become bleached. Offerings dedicated to the gods end in ashes. Giving is a doctrine of morons. When anyone affirms a positive teaching it\u2019s just baseless, false nonsense. Both the foolish and the astute are annihilated and destroyed when their body breaks up, and don\u2019t exist after death\u2019?\u201d \u201cOur teachings are rooted in the Buddha. \u2026\u201d \u201cWhen form exists, because of grasping form and insisting on form, the view arises: \u2018There\u2019s no meaning in giving, sacrifice, or offerings. \u2026 Both the foolish and the astute are annihilated and destroyed when their body breaks up, and don\u2019t exist after death.\u2019 When feeling \u2026 perception \u2026 choices \u2026 consciousness exists, because of grasping consciousness and insisting on consciousness, the view arises: \u2018There\u2019s no meaning in giving, sacrifice, or offerings. \u2026 Both the foolish and the astute are annihilated and destroyed when their body breaks up, and don\u2019t exist after death.\u2019 What do you think, mendicants? Is form permanent or impermanent?\u201d \u201cImpermanent, sir.\u201d \u2026 \u201cIs feeling \u2026 perception \u2026 choices \u2026 consciousness permanent or impermanent?\u201d \u201cImpermanent, sir.\u201d \u2026 \u201cThat which is seen, heard, thought, known, attained, sought, and explored by the mind: is that permanent or impermanent?\u201d \u201cImpermanent, sir.\u201d \u2026 \u201cBut by not grasping what\u2019s impermanent, suffering, and perishable, would such a view arise?\u201d \u201cNo, sir.\u201d \u201cWhen a noble disciple has given up doubt regarding these six grounds, and has given up doubt in suffering, its origin, its cessation, and the practice that leads to its cessation, they\u2019re called a noble disciple who is a stream-enterer, not liable to be reborn in the underworld, assured, destined for awakening.\u201d","title":"There\u2019s No Meaning in Giving","tradition":"Samyutta Nikaya","translated_text":null,"word_count":433}