{"collection":"Samyutta Nikaya","full_text_available":true,"graph_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/v2/api/page/suttacentral_sn36.19/graph","html_url":"https://unchartedknowledge.5gfusion.net/v2/page/suttacentral_sn36.19","id":"suttacentral_sn36.19","license":"CC0","rights_basis":"suttacentral_bilara_data_cc0","source":"suttacentral","source_url":"https://suttacentral.net/sn36.19/en/sujato","summary":null,"tags":["Early Buddhist Texts","Samyutta Nikaya"],"text":"Then the chamberlain Pa\u00f1caka\u1e45ga went up to Venerable Ud\u0101y\u012b, bowed, sat down to one side, and asked him, \u201cSir, how many feelings has the Buddha spoken of?\u201d \u201cChamberlain, the Buddha has spoken of three feelings: pleasant, painful, and neutral. The Buddha has spoken of these three feelings.\u201d When he said this, Pa\u00f1caka\u1e45ga said to Ud\u0101y\u012b, \u201cSir, Ud\u0101y\u012b, the Buddha hasn\u2019t spoken of three feelings. He\u2019s spoken of two feelings: pleasant and painful. The Buddha said that neutral feeling is included as a peaceful and subtle kind of pleasure.\u201d For a second time, Ud\u0101y\u012b said to him, \u201cThe Buddha hasn\u2019t spoken of two feelings, he\u2019s spoken of three.\u201d For a second time, Pa\u00f1caka\u1e45ga said to Ud\u0101y\u012b, \u201cThe Buddha hasn\u2019t spoken of three feelings, he\u2019s spoken of two.\u201d And for a third time, Ud\u0101y\u012b said to him, \u201cThe Buddha hasn\u2019t spoken of two feelings, he\u2019s spoken of three.\u201d And for a third time, Pa\u00f1caka\u1e45ga said to Ud\u0101y\u012b, \u201cThe Buddha hasn\u2019t spoken of three feelings, he\u2019s spoken of two.\u201d But neither was able to persuade the other. Venerable \u0100nanda heard this discussion between Ud\u0101y\u012b and Pa\u00f1caka\u1e45ga. He went to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and informed the Buddha of all they had discussed. \u201c\u0100nanda, the explanation by the mendicant Ud\u0101y\u012b, which the chamberlain Pa\u00f1caka\u1e45ga didn\u2019t agree with, was quite correct. But the explanation by Pa\u00f1caka\u1e45ga, which Ud\u0101y\u012b didn\u2019t agree with, was also quite correct. In one explanation I\u2019ve spoken of two feelings. In another explanation I\u2019ve spoken of three feelings, or five, six, eighteen, thirty-six, or a hundred and eight feelings. I\u2019ve explained the teaching in all these different ways. This being so, you can expect that those who don\u2019t concede, approve, or agree with what has been well spoken will fight, quarrel, and dispute, continually wounding each other with barbed words. I\u2019ve explained the teaching in all these different ways. This being so, you can expect that those who do concede, approve, or agree with what has been well spoken will live in harmony, appreciating each other, without dispute, blending like milk and water, and regarding each other with kindly eyes. There are these five kinds of sensual stimulation. What five? Sights known by the eye, which are likable, desirable, agreeable, pleasant, sensual, and arousing. \u2026 Touches known by the body, which are likable, desirable, agreeable, pleasant, sensual, and arousing. These are the five kinds of sensual stimulation. The pleasure and happiness that arise from these five kinds of sensual stimulation is called sensual pleasure. There are those who might say that this is the highest pleasure and happiness that sentient beings experience. But I don\u2019t grant them that. Why is that? Because there is another pleasure that is finer than that. And what is that pleasure? It\u2019s when a mendicant, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unskillful qualities, enters and remains in the first absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of seclusion, while placing the mind and keeping it connected. This is a pleasure that is finer than that. There are those who might say that this is the highest pleasure and happiness that sentient beings experience. But I don\u2019t grant them that. Why is that? Because there is another pleasure that is finer than that. And what is that pleasure? It\u2019s when, as the placing of the mind and keeping it connected are stilled, a mendicant enters and remains in the second absorption, which has the rapture and bliss born of immersion, with internal clarity and mind at one, without placing the mind and keeping it connected. This is a pleasure that is finer than that. There are those who might say that this is the highest pleasure and happiness that sentient beings experience. But I don\u2019t grant them that. Why is that? Because there is another pleasure that is finer than that. And what is that pleasure? It\u2019s when, with the fading away of rapture, a mendicant enters and remains in the third absorption, where they meditate with equanimity, mindful and aware, experiencing for themselves the bliss of which the noble ones declare, \u2018Equanimous and mindful, one meditates in bliss.\u2019 This is a pleasure that is finer than that. There are those who might say that this is the highest pleasure and happiness that sentient beings experience. But I don\u2019t grant them that. Why is that? Because there is another pleasure that is finer than that. And what is that pleasure? It\u2019s when, with the giving up of pleasure and pain and the disappearance of former happiness and sadness, a mendicant enters and remains in the fourth absorption, without pleasure or pain, with pure equanimity and mindfulness. This is a pleasure that is finer than that. There are those who might say that this is the highest pleasure and happiness that sentient beings experience. But I don\u2019t grant them that. Why is that? Because there is another pleasure that is finer than that. And what is that pleasure? It\u2019s when a mendicant, going totally beyond perceptions of form, with the ending of perceptions of impingement, not focusing on perceptions of diversity, aware that \u2018space is infinite\u2019, enters and remains in the dimension of infinite space. This is a pleasure that is finer than that. There are those who might say that this is the highest pleasure and happiness that sentient beings experience. But I don\u2019t grant them that. Why is that? Because there is another pleasure that is finer than that. And what is that pleasure? It\u2019s when a mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of infinite space, aware that \u2018consciousness is infinite\u2019, enters and remains in the dimension of infinite consciousness. This is a pleasure that is finer than that. There are those who might say that this is the highest pleasure and happiness that sentient beings experience. But I don\u2019t grant them that. Why is that? Because there is another pleasure that is finer than that. And what is that pleasure? It\u2019s when a mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of infinite consciousness, aware that \u2018there is nothing at all\u2019, enters and remains in the dimension of nothingness. This is a pleasure that is finer than that. There are those who might say that this is the highest pleasure and happiness that sentient beings experience. But I don\u2019t grant them that. Why is that? Because there is another pleasure that is finer than that. And what is that pleasure? It\u2019s when a mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of nothingness, enters and remains in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception. This is a pleasure that is finer than that. There are those who might say that this is the highest pleasure and happiness that sentient beings experience. But I don\u2019t grant them that. Why is that? Because there is another pleasure that is finer than that. And what is that pleasure? It\u2019s when a mendicant, going totally beyond the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception, enters and remains in the cessation of perception and feeling. This is a pleasure that is finer than that. It\u2019s possible that wanderers of other religions might say: \u2018The ascetic Gotama spoke of the cessation of perception and feeling, and he includes it in happiness. What\u2019s up with that?\u2019 When wanderers of other religions say this, you should say to them: \u2018Reverends, when the Buddha describes what\u2019s included in happiness, he\u2019s not just referring to pleasant feeling. The Realized One describes pleasure as included in happiness wherever it is found, and in whatever context.\u2019\u201d","title":"With Pa\u00f1caka\u1e45ga","tradition":"Samyutta Nikaya","translated_text":null,"word_count":1249}